The Existence of God. A Dialogue.
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Chapter I. -- The Proof from Reason

Introduction. Inadequacy of many arguments in favour of Theism. The argument from Consciousness an invalid one. Fundamental scepticism of Mill and Hamilton. The proof of Theism sufficient but not resistless. Moral hindrances to its acceptance, viz., the indulgence of the passions, and pride. Growth of the idea of God in children.

1. Argument from Design. Often exaggerated. It proves a wise designer, but not an all-wise Creator. Imperfections in the universe. Their explanation.

2. Argument from Causation. Proves irrefragably the existence of a First Cause, independent, self-existent, Infinite, combining all the perfections in the universe. Difficulties -- (a) God cannot contain material perfections. (b) A cause does not necessarily comprise all the perfections of its effect. (c) Primeval force may have produced all things. (d) God cannot be a Person, for personality implies limitation. Replies. Summary of argument.

Chapter II. -- Subsidiary Arguments

Struggle in the mind of the sceptic.

3. Argument from the Moral Law. Can conscience be accounted for on utilitarian grounds? Difficulty of urging the moral argument against the sceptic. Its limits. It confirms and establishes the belief already derived from other sources. Is conclusive rather than convincing.

4. Argument from general consent of mankind. Not in itself a peremptory argument. Is often set aside by sceptics on insufficient grounds. Is calculated to strengthen belief rather than to produce it. Theism strong by reason of the moral strength of its supporters, and the moral weakness and degradation of its adversaries.

Summary. Is there a natural order in the various arguments for God's existence?

Chapter III. -- Popular Difficulties

Further struggle in the mind of the sceptic.

Objections to Theism -

(1) The limited nature of God's mercy.

Reply -- It is so from the very nature of things, and could not be otherwise, and besides, we do not see its full extent.

(2) The injustice of eternal punishment for a momentary action. Reply -- A momentary action often has irreparable consequences, e.g. suicide.

(3) A merciful God could not create Hell.

Reply -- Is it true that God creates Hell? The chief agony of Hell not the fire. How can this fire affect the immaterial soul? Explanation. Is Hell a state or a place? Literal significance of the terms respecting Hell.

(4) The misery of this life, often suffered by the innocent.

Reply -- It is transitory in character. It vanishes when compared with eternity. It adds to the happiness hereafter, and this for ever.

(5) The creation of those whom God foresaw would be lost.

Reply -- God's actions done because good in themselves, apart from their indirect results. Consequences apparently evil arise from some interposing cause. General results of Divine action always good. In what sense do the lost manifest the glory of God?

Effect of the arguments on the sceptic. Conclusion.

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An excerpt from the beginning of:

THE PREFACE.


THE following Dialogue is an attempt to put forward, in popular form, the chief arguments from reason by which the existence of God is proved, and to show the weakness and inconsistency of the objections most commonly urged against it. I must ask my readers to remember that the conversations as narrated are supposed to be but an abstract of the discussions which would be required to convince under ordinary circumstances a sceptic of such long standing as the interlocutor to whom I have given the name of Cholmeley. If he retreats from his position with a readiness which would scarcely find a counterpart in real life, the apparent unreality is due to the necessity of conciseness and to the opportunity that written language affords of pondering over arguments which, if spoken would only sink in gradually, and after a frequency of repetition wearisome in print.

The treatment of such a subject as that about which I have written has another practical difficulty – that there are no two men to whom precisely the same objections occur with equal force. All that is possible for one who seeks to deal with it in popular shape is to choose out so far as he can those which are most common and most mischievous to the generality of men. His temptation is to be continually drawn off into further rejoinders and unnecessary subtleties. And in seeking to avoid this danger he is liable to expose himself to the charge of not sounding to its depths the intellectual Charybdis of unbelief.
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The Existence of God. A Dialogue.
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Chapter I. -- The Proof from Reason

Introduction. Inadequacy of many arguments in favour of Theism. The argument from Consciousness an invalid one. Fundamental scepticism of Mill and Hamilton. The proof of Theism sufficient but not resistless. Moral hindrances to its acceptance, viz., the indulgence of the passions, and pride. Growth of the idea of God in children.

1. Argument from Design. Often exaggerated. It proves a wise designer, but not an all-wise Creator. Imperfections in the universe. Their explanation.

2. Argument from Causation. Proves irrefragably the existence of a First Cause, independent, self-existent, Infinite, combining all the perfections in the universe. Difficulties -- (a) God cannot contain material perfections. (b) A cause does not necessarily comprise all the perfections of its effect. (c) Primeval force may have produced all things. (d) God cannot be a Person, for personality implies limitation. Replies. Summary of argument.

Chapter II. -- Subsidiary Arguments

Struggle in the mind of the sceptic.

3. Argument from the Moral Law. Can conscience be accounted for on utilitarian grounds? Difficulty of urging the moral argument against the sceptic. Its limits. It confirms and establishes the belief already derived from other sources. Is conclusive rather than convincing.

4. Argument from general consent of mankind. Not in itself a peremptory argument. Is often set aside by sceptics on insufficient grounds. Is calculated to strengthen belief rather than to produce it. Theism strong by reason of the moral strength of its supporters, and the moral weakness and degradation of its adversaries.

Summary. Is there a natural order in the various arguments for God's existence?

Chapter III. -- Popular Difficulties

Further struggle in the mind of the sceptic.

Objections to Theism -

(1) The limited nature of God's mercy.

Reply -- It is so from the very nature of things, and could not be otherwise, and besides, we do not see its full extent.

(2) The injustice of eternal punishment for a momentary action. Reply -- A momentary action often has irreparable consequences, e.g. suicide.

(3) A merciful God could not create Hell.

Reply -- Is it true that God creates Hell? The chief agony of Hell not the fire. How can this fire affect the immaterial soul? Explanation. Is Hell a state or a place? Literal significance of the terms respecting Hell.

(4) The misery of this life, often suffered by the innocent.

Reply -- It is transitory in character. It vanishes when compared with eternity. It adds to the happiness hereafter, and this for ever.

(5) The creation of those whom God foresaw would be lost.

Reply -- God's actions done because good in themselves, apart from their indirect results. Consequences apparently evil arise from some interposing cause. General results of Divine action always good. In what sense do the lost manifest the glory of God?

Effect of the arguments on the sceptic. Conclusion.

***
An excerpt from the beginning of:

THE PREFACE.


THE following Dialogue is an attempt to put forward, in popular form, the chief arguments from reason by which the existence of God is proved, and to show the weakness and inconsistency of the objections most commonly urged against it. I must ask my readers to remember that the conversations as narrated are supposed to be but an abstract of the discussions which would be required to convince under ordinary circumstances a sceptic of such long standing as the interlocutor to whom I have given the name of Cholmeley. If he retreats from his position with a readiness which would scarcely find a counterpart in real life, the apparent unreality is due to the necessity of conciseness and to the opportunity that written language affords of pondering over arguments which, if spoken would only sink in gradually, and after a frequency of repetition wearisome in print.

The treatment of such a subject as that about which I have written has another practical difficulty – that there are no two men to whom precisely the same objections occur with equal force. All that is possible for one who seeks to deal with it in popular shape is to choose out so far as he can those which are most common and most mischievous to the generality of men. His temptation is to be continually drawn off into further rejoinders and unnecessary subtleties. And in seeking to avoid this danger he is liable to expose himself to the charge of not sounding to its depths the intellectual Charybdis of unbelief.
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Scanned, proofed and corrected from the original edition for your reading pleasure. It is also searchable and contains

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Chapter I. -- The Proof from Reason

Introduction. Inadequacy of many arguments in favour of Theism. The argument from Consciousness an invalid one. Fundamental scepticism of Mill and Hamilton. The proof of Theism sufficient but not resistless. Moral hindrances to its acceptance, viz., the indulgence of the passions, and pride. Growth of the idea of God in children.

1. Argument from Design. Often exaggerated. It proves a wise designer, but not an all-wise Creator. Imperfections in the universe. Their explanation.

2. Argument from Causation. Proves irrefragably the existence of a First Cause, independent, self-existent, Infinite, combining all the perfections in the universe. Difficulties -- (a) God cannot contain material perfections. (b) A cause does not necessarily comprise all the perfections of its effect. (c) Primeval force may have produced all things. (d) God cannot be a Person, for personality implies limitation. Replies. Summary of argument.

Chapter II. -- Subsidiary Arguments

Struggle in the mind of the sceptic.

3. Argument from the Moral Law. Can conscience be accounted for on utilitarian grounds? Difficulty of urging the moral argument against the sceptic. Its limits. It confirms and establishes the belief already derived from other sources. Is conclusive rather than convincing.

4. Argument from general consent of mankind. Not in itself a peremptory argument. Is often set aside by sceptics on insufficient grounds. Is calculated to strengthen belief rather than to produce it. Theism strong by reason of the moral strength of its supporters, and the moral weakness and degradation of its adversaries.

Summary. Is there a natural order in the various arguments for God's existence?

Chapter III. -- Popular Difficulties

Further struggle in the mind of the sceptic.

Objections to Theism -

(1) The limited nature of God's mercy.

Reply -- It is so from the very nature of things, and could not be otherwise, and besides, we do not see its full extent.

(2) The injustice of eternal punishment for a momentary action. Reply -- A momentary action often has irreparable consequences, e.g. suicide.

(3) A merciful God could not create Hell.

Reply -- Is it true that God creates Hell? The chief agony of Hell not the fire. How can this fire affect the immaterial soul? Explanation. Is Hell a state or a place? Literal significance of the terms respecting Hell.

(4) The misery of this life, often suffered by the innocent.

Reply -- It is transitory in character. It vanishes when compared with eternity. It adds to the happiness hereafter, and this for ever.

(5) The creation of those whom God foresaw would be lost.

Reply -- God's actions done because good in themselves, apart from their indirect results. Consequences apparently evil arise from some interposing cause. General results of Divine action always good. In what sense do the lost manifest the glory of God?

Effect of the arguments on the sceptic. Conclusion.

***
An excerpt from the beginning of:

THE PREFACE.


THE following Dialogue is an attempt to put forward, in popular form, the chief arguments from reason by which the existence of God is proved, and to show the weakness and inconsistency of the objections most commonly urged against it. I must ask my readers to remember that the conversations as narrated are supposed to be but an abstract of the discussions which would be required to convince under ordinary circumstances a sceptic of such long standing as the interlocutor to whom I have given the name of Cholmeley. If he retreats from his position with a readiness which would scarcely find a counterpart in real life, the apparent unreality is due to the necessity of conciseness and to the opportunity that written language affords of pondering over arguments which, if spoken would only sink in gradually, and after a frequency of repetition wearisome in print.

The treatment of such a subject as that about which I have written has another practical difficulty – that there are no two men to whom precisely the same objections occur with equal force. All that is possible for one who seeks to deal with it in popular shape is to choose out so far as he can those which are most common and most mischievous to the generality of men. His temptation is to be continually drawn off into further rejoinders and unnecessary subtleties. And in seeking to avoid this danger he is liable to expose himself to the charge of not sounding to its depths the intellectual Charybdis of unbelief.

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